Everyday low prices and free delivery on eligible orders. Goodnight he he. Thompson Model of 1927 A1 Semi Auto Carbine Caliber 45 ACP Excellent condition 16.5in barrel Made in West Hurley in 1973 Tight action, used very little Adjustable rear sight Green canvas milit ...Click for more info. Along with the M1 Carbine, Winchester designed the new .30 Carbine cartridge by modifying the old .32 Winchester Self-Loading cartridge (read more about the .32 SL here). CDN$ 5.00 shipping . The.30 Carbine (7.62×33mm) is a rimless carbine cartridge used in the M1 carbine introduced in the 1940s. How does .30 Carbine headspace in that particular fire-arm? The rimless .30 Carbine (7.62x33mm) was originally designed to fire a .30 caliber, 110gr full metal jacket bullet at just under 2,000 feet per second. http://www.patreon.com/ForgottenWeaponsCool Forgotten Weapons Merch! The .30 Carbine Thompson SMF was nearly double the weight requirement for the light carbine, coming in past 12 pounds, unloaded. Auto Ordnance Thompson D-Day M1 30 Carbine 18in Brown Semi Automatic Rifle - 15+1 Rounds - Thompson Auto-Ordnance, maker of the famous “Tommy Gun” and other classic firearms throughout history, is proud to introduce the Limited Edition D-Day Series including this limited addition “The Soldier M1 Carbine”. for .30 Carbine M2 Ball is 0.447 Interesting history. 10%. Buy THOMPSON M1 online at a great price. Kahr Arms Auto Ordnance Thompson 1927A1 Deluxe 45 ACP T1B100D . Issue of pistols ( including revolvers) became more widespread in all the major armies throughout the 20th century. Posted: 11/25/2009 9:28:45 PM EST Carbine. This item can be shipped to United States. should be: “(…)hypothetical .30CarbineGreaseGun(…)”. Not a good idea at all, so rejected out of hand. M2 Carbine is select fire, has 15 or 30 round magazines, light, longer sight radius, and .30 Caliber. but I am not aware of self-destruction. in other words 100 cartridges of .45 caliber weight is about 164 cartridges of .30 caliber. Fun video even though Ian shoots weird (left handed)…every time I watch him shoot I get disoriented. M1 Carbine all the way.. Interesting. Notice that requirements which ended in choice of M1 Carbine do not ask for Carbine, but “light rifle” We offer the same attention to craftsmanship today that made the original so highly regarded. Assault rifles fire intermediate rifle cartridges, more powerful than pistol rounds but less powerful than traditional smokeless powder era rifle cartridges. Out the lot, the M1 Garand and that carbine were the best auto/semi of the selection which included an Aksu an SLR, Romanian AKM of similar weapon varieties for comfort. M2 select fire M1 carbines… Came out later. $14.95 Per Firearm One $9.99 Charge For Any Amount of Accessories Shipping Information. “conundrum” The White Rifle ventilated handguard has a nice futuristic look to it, and certainly shows a more realistic appreciation for the heat generated by semi-auto fire than the semi-auto rifles which simply copied the wooden handguard fashion of bolt-action rifles. N1Rampage. The very limited numbers of .45 Thompsons produced before 1940 could have been relegated to second line duties. The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, inscribing its place for all times a legend among military firearms. Classification conundrum. The Thompson Light Rifle was an attempt by the Auto-Ordnance Company to manufacture a light rifle for the United States Armed Forces.The overall weapon was based on their well proven .45 ACP submachine gun, although the original .30 Carbine caliber rifle was based on the M1921/27 variants. I don’t think it actually did. The M1 Semi-Automatic Carbine offers the same attention to craftsmanship today that made the original so highly regarded. There was also other another design abandoned, due to not being in requirements – White rifle – which used wrong cartridge (.276 Pedersen) Joined May 2005; Posts 7339; EE Offline; FL, USA. A proprietary cartridge the .45 Remington-Thompson was developed as a perceived improvement at the time- 1923, but not adopted which had an overall length of 1″ which doesn’t seem right as that’s shorter than the .45Acp, perhaps it means case the length which is more similar to a .30 Carbine. Because the .30 US Carbine cartridge is classified with pistol cartridges. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M3_submachine_gun#M3A1 M1 Carbine Owners Manual: M1, M2 & M3 .30 Caliber Carbines. Logistical complication? A carbine, either select fire or semi-auto only in .45 ACP would have been sufficient for the job. Even Fairbairn, the guru of point-shooting, suggests that two hand shooting should be default…IF … Detractors of the M1 Carbine (and you will find naysayers of every weapon our military has ever fielded) really could only ever find only one flaw with it: its "underpowered" cartridge. Only a few were made, and the one submitted for military testing was rejected outright on the basis of weight. Thompson SMG in 30 Carbine (Video) October 17, 2016Ian McCollumPrototype, Submachine Guns, Video65 When the US military released a request for what would become the M1 Carbine in 1940, the Auto-Ordnance Corporation offered up a Thompson submachine gun simply rechambered for the new.30 Carbine cartridge. Auto Ordnance M1 Carbine Magazines New 15 Rd 30 Carbine. 10% 90 Days. Area Code: 601 . Also I suspect that hypothetical will have either very high RateOfFire or either be very heavy. What puzzles me is … Maybe it would have been quite good. Roughly you could buy 5 M3’s for the price of one Thompson. I presume the Thompson in .30 Carbine didn’t work very well. I do not know much about them, but I had not heard before that they had a problem coming apart. So even those Thompson’s employing it actually function as pure blowback firearms. During World War II, various companies and weapons designers vied for the coveted contract that ultimately became the M1 Carbine in.30 Carbine. Even them. Only 1 left in stock. Shooting and showing the Auto Ordnance Thompson M1 A1 in SBR configuration. Test barrel length: 457.2mmSource(s): Winchester 1 The .30 Carbine (7.62×33mm) is the cartridge used in the M1 Carbine introduced in the 1940s. One point often missed, is the potential of … The problems with the M3 were bending of the ratchet lever that cocked the bolt and accidentally denting the receiver enough to jam the bolt. Making another Thompson in 30 Carbine would also make a logistical nightmare, since parts were expensive to make. M1 Carbine Pouch and Magazine Combo - Four 30rd mags and banana clip pouch w/dust covers 1943 WORLD WAR II Era U.S. IBM M1 Carbine .30 Caliber Light Rifle WW2 Made by the INTERNATION BUSINESS MACHINES of … $1,115.99 $1,049.89. So, “Throw me a Tommy Gun magazine!” … “Which one, .30 or .45?” … “.30!” … “I don’t have any of the new ones. Pistol ammunition actually fired by pistols in WWII must have amounted to an insignificant drop in the bucket as far as small arms logistics is concerned. They are radically different from a standard M1928 model though in that they are ‘rifle’ like in so much as they have a rifle type grip and trigger as opposed to a pistol grip! Euroweasel, having had the opportunity to shoot a Ruger Blackhawk in .30 carbine with military ball I can assure you that the flash and blast is impressive. for .45 ACP is 0.737 The M1 carbine, formerly designated as the United States Carbine, Caliber .30, M1, is a lightweight carbine chambered for the .30 Carbine round first fielded by the United States during World War II. Enjoy what you read on Forgotten Weapons? Thompson M1 SBR, 10.5" Barrel, Semi-Automatic Carbine Shipped with one 30 round stick magazine Product Video: Thompson Rifles, Pistols and Accessories Steel … They were in National Guard armories up into the 1990’s. The Thompson is completely controllable in full-auto mode. The SLR was something of a shock stood up, never having fired anything other than 5.56mm in a rifle, at the time. In other words, this revolver has a square shoulder at the front of the chamber that controls the forward movement of the cartridge. Revolver are generally using headspace/rim method but .30 Carbine is rimless. http://www.smallarmsreview.com/display.article.cfm?idarticles=2938 And someone bent on machinegunning unarmed prisoners has questionable judgement and needs to be disarmed anyway! Here is a.45 caliber semi-automatic version of the world's first and most famous military rifle. Posted October 20, 2016 in Companies, Daily News, NFA / Suppressors / Class III by Nathan S with 24 CommentsTags: .30 carbine, .45 ACP, M1, prototypes, smg, Thompson, wwII. The distinction between carbine and smg then, was presumably was which position the bolt operated from. I worked up a .357 Magnum load with slow pistol powder for a Marlin lever-action. Carbine = weapon with barrel shorter than rifle UPC : 602686422109. Seller: AncestryGunsLLC . which was in fact sub-machine gun. This is true for M1 Thompson, earlier versions used Blish lock. Flat-Rate Shipping. On the other hand 1x .30 Carbine cartridge is lighter than 1x .45 Auto cartridge, according to http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2016/04/09/how-much-does-your-ammunition-weigh/ The above post is my opinion and does not reflect the views of any company or organization. The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, inscribing its place for all times as a legend among military firearms. It is constructed of steel with a black finish and has a 30round capacity. I wonder how bad it would climb with a long burst. Also, the rate of fire for the M1 is dependent on the user's trigger-pulling capabilities. Info from Wikipedia. Enter your email address to receive notifications of new posts by email. Although heavy, it probably was accurate. it has 18.25″ long barrel and sights scaled up to 400 yards (which might be optimistic) but anyway should be enough as PDW. Seems to me, that was a major motivation in efforts to replace it. Without a locking mechanism one could expect lots of incomplete cartridge combustion and powder burns on the off hand… or am I wrong? Kahr Arms Auto-Ordnance M1 Carbine 30 Cal. On the other hand, did the US Army actually need a new cartridge for a defensive carbine meant for support troops? http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/full/1565B-JPG633536159473833429.jpg. When the US military released a request for what would become the M1 Carbine in 1940, the Auto-Ordnance Corporation offered up a Thompson submachine gun simply rechambered for the new .30 Carbine cartridge. Damage: 40 (limbs: 30) Rate of fire: Semi-automatic Magazine capacity: 15 rounds Starting ammo: 15 + 150 rds. Make Offer. $2800.00 . It has a fixed buttstock, pistol grip, and vertical foregrip. The Thompson Light Rifle was an attempt by the Auto-Ordnance Company to manufacture a light rifle for the United States Armed Forces. should be: “(…)weapon firing pistol cartridge and capable of full auto-fire(…)”. Auto Ordnance Iwo Jima Commemorative 1911 45 ACP, 5" Barrel, Steel Frame, Olive Drab, Distressed Copper, Engraved, 7rd . $966.42. Hoodoo says: June 27, 2020 at 10:29 am. Tommy Guns were already in service with both ourselves and our allies. (both conditions are necessary but not sufficient) Roughly you could buy 5 M3’s for the price of one Thompson. A consecutive Marine rifle and pistol expert, he enjoys local 3-gun, NFA, gunsmithing, MSR’s, & high-speed gear. Considering how much lighter .30 carbine ammunition is compared to .45 ACP, that would have been a blessing both to the Thompson gunners who had to carry it and the supply personnel who had to deliver that ammunition. Layaway now for. If the new weapons were chambered for something like the old .345 Winchester devised for the Burton rifle, it would also have been less confusing logistically. We , each and every one of us, must hold ourselves to a higher standard. So purchases started, Thompson sub-machine gun was not lightest but was available, Reising sub-machine gun was not most reliable but it was available, U.S. Submachinegun, Caliber .45, M2 and United Defense M42 was developed using older but known manufacturing processes. Auto-Ordnance-Thompson M1 Carbine Paratrooper Rifle | AOM150. This example is serial number 1, and resides at the Cody Firearms Museum. The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the … The weapon was truly a “just in case” submission to the Army, which was summarily rejected. There is a specification for case length that all ammunition should fall within, handloads or not, no matter the rim type. Notice that generally primers intended for short-barrel fire-arms should activate powder faster (to effective harness length of barrel), than primers intended for long-barrel fire-arms. The TM1 is the semi automatic copy of the famed M1 Thompson of World War II. $2,335.00 . Find quality firearm mags for sale online at Guns.com. N1Rampage. MSRP: $1,749.00. A lot of that came from the fact that it was compared to the M1 Garand i.r. Some early M1917 revolvers did not have a shoulder in the chamber and that caused problems with folks using .45 ACP loose, without half-moon clips. This doesn’t address the various mixes of AP, Ball, Tracer and Grenade Throwing rounds. Reply. CDN$ 27.00 CDN$ 27. OUT OF STOCK (5) INLAND M1 CARBINE 1945 MODEL .30 CARBINE 15RD PARKERIZED. Beats .45Acp or 7.62x25mm so 9mm Luger also. That was corrected in later production to properly function with loose rounds. Oct Barrel” is in sale since Wednesday, March 7, 2018. So perhaps they thought the 7.62x33mm would be a good smg cartridge discounting the carbine notion if that was distinct from a smg as aforementioned and tried to present that as a carbine, and the previous experience of making a Tommy gun in another calibre helped them make the transition. Here is a.45 caliber semi-automatic version of the world's first and most famous military rifle. Auto-Ordnance 1911A1, 45 ACP, 5", 7rd, Checkered Wood Grips, US Logo, Case Hardened. Auto … MidwayUSA carries a full line of 30 Carbine from all the major brands. Paperback CDN$ 21.43 CDN$ 21. Auto-Ordnance - Thompson M1 Carbine | 45 ACP | 30 + 1| Model: M1SB | UPC: 602686281003 | THOMPSON M1 SBR 45CAL 10.5" 30+1 - Honey Badger Firearms Nathan has traveled to over 30 countries working with US DoD & foreign MoDs. The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, ensuring its place for eternity as a legend among military firearms. M1 Thompson is .45 caliber, full auto, heavy, and short. Thompson M1 Semi-Auto Rifle -The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, inscribing its place for all times as a legend among military firearms. You're a bad influence! Yes, powder burn rate is also important. 10 in. What is the distinction between the two? OUT OF STOCK (0) Auto Ordnance - M1 Carbine Vengeance, 30 cal, 18\", Blade Fro. It’s a different matter with handloads tailored to the barrel length, it really shines a flat shooting small/medium game cartridge with those loadings. The Thompson weighs 16 pounds and for comparison the M1 Garand is 10 pounds. KCI USA. .30 Carbine primer is Small rifle Both are fun to shot. Not too many years ago, my dear sweety discovered the …shall we say…advantages….of the snub nosed revolver loaded with reloaded flashbangs. This item is in the category “Sporting Goods\Hunting\Gun Parts\Pistol”. Very Low Stock. Kahr Arms AOM130C3. Even Fairbairn, the guru of point-shooting, suggests that two hand shooting should be default…IF … Auto Ordnance hoped to win the contract as minimal retooling was required to get the weapon into production. The M1 .30 Carbine developed a poor reputation of stopping power during WWII. The main problem with pistols as self defense weapons is that they require much more training to master than shouldered weapons, especially if you want to hit anything beyond 25 yards. 30 Carbine, 18" BBL, Semi-Automatic, Folding Walnut Stock, Parkerized Finish, 15+1... Hinterland #: 23704; MFG #: AOM150; Availability. SKU : AOM130C2. The item “Thompson-Center Arms TC Contender 30 Carbine M1 10-inch Pistol Barrel Octagon” is in sale since Sunday, December 16, 2018. It is used in the Master Sergeant class in Day of Defeat and the Assault class in Source. Please verify the product based on the model #, UPC #, description and specifications before o Thompson M1 Carbine The Soldier 30 Carbine 18" 15+1 Patriot Brown Engraved Fixed Stock. Specifications Edit. Seller: Paul Booth . So a .30 M1 Carbine round exits the barrel with kinetic energy equal to the energy required for linear vertical displacement of 960 pounds through a one foot distance, while a .300 AAC Blackout round exiting the barrel has energy equal to the amount required to displace 1350 pounds over the same one foot distance. If that distinction was specified in the request, although apparently the M1 was originally intended to be select fire seemingly “an M1 smg, or select fire carbine” but this feature was omitted to speed up it’s development. At the beginning of World War II the average production cost for an M1 carbine was approximately $45, about half the cost of an M1 rifle at approximately $85 and about a fifth of the cost of a Thompson submachine gun at approximately $225. 30 Carbine, 18" BBL, Semi-Automatic, Folding Walnut Stock, Parkerized Finish, 15+1... Hinterland #: 23704; MFG #: AOM150; Availability. This Thompson gun in .30 cal, select fire albeit from an open bolt might be considered an assault rifle then due to the cartridge as the Mkb42h fired from an open bolt. You're a bad influence! While the M1 Garand rifle and the Thompson submachine gun were named for their respective designers, the M1 Carbine was not named for anyone in … They do have several BSA built Thompson’s in various calibers though. BSA guns are in the USA. Intended to arm soldiers who need lightweight arms, the PDW is a handy weapon that does not get in the way of other duties, such as driving a tank, manning a radio post or serving as an ammunition bearer. Along with the M1 Carbine, Winchester designed the new .30 Carbine cartridge by modifying the old .32 Winchester Self-Loading cartridge (read more about the .32 SL here). And demand the same in our own. 30 CARBINE Ammo Can 4x Labels Ammunition 3x1.15 stickers. “The stipulations for the new carbine included a weigh requirement of 5 pounds” Open bolt smgs out, closed bolt… Carbines, select fire or otherwise in. Auto Ordnance Iwo Jima Commemorative M1 Carbine Rifle, 30 Carbine, 18" Barrel, Olive DrabGreen under Distressed Copper Cerakote, Engraved Walnut Stock, 15Rd, Features Engravings memorializing "Operation Detachment" on Iwo Jima. Buy The M1 Carbine: 13 (Weapon) Illustrated by Thompson, Leroy, Dennis, Peter, Gilliland, Alan (ISBN: 9781849086196) from Amazon's Book Store. Commentdocument.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a0299c2d1bfd9677f3882c6bd9c5e625" );document.getElementById("a524294bd0").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Paratrooper Folding . Sadly the Pattern Room ( now the NFC ) does not have a 0.30 carbine Thompson or any of the BSA ones in 9mm,all five of the Sell your 30 M1 Carbine for FREE today on GunsAmerica! AUTO-ORDNANCE MAGAZINE M1 CARBINE .30 CARBINE 15-ROUNDS Out of stock. 4.6 out of 5 stars 28. http://ww2.rediscov.com/spring/VFPCGI.exe?IDCFile=/spring/DETAILS.IDC,SPECIFIC=10210,DATABASE=objects. The semi-automatic Thompson carbines are great nostalgia pieces and really fun to shoot. KCI M1 Carbine .30 Magazine - 30Rd. That barrel length is certainly better suited to the .30 Carbine cartridge than the shorter ones of the various handguns chambered in it. (and really now, Allies? The Thompson M1 was used victoriously in battles throughout the world, inscribing its place for all times as a legend among military firearms. No. !” Many guys hated the M3 for not being made to last in the field. This requirement was dropped in the development phase, *solely* because it was thought doing so would cut development time (even so, first tests weren’t run until May because of the other delays). Model : M1 Carbine. If the US really had switched to .30 caliber Thompson production that would have made it even easier for the US to ship off older stocks of .45 caliber Thompsons to the UK than the US was already doing.). 00. It is a light rifle round designed to be fired from the M1 carbine's 18-inch (458 mm) barrel. 1945 WORLD WAR II INLAND M1 Carbine .30 Caliber Light Rifle General Motors Manufactured by the “Inland Division” of GENERAL MOTORS Here we present an Inland U.S. M1 Carbine Semi-Auto ...Click for more info. Well that is obvious. M1 Carbine in combat during WWII in the Pacific theatre. Anyone have some of those new .30 cal. Thompson mags?”. Personally I'd take the M2 for the better range and accuracy. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. From there, various internal mechanical bits were reinforced, but the primary operating action was the same. Here is a .45 caliber semi-automatic version of the world's first and most famous military rifle. Buy a 30 M1 Carbine online. Sub-machine gun = weapon firing pistol cartridge Reply. That means actual ammunition expended by an Army Rifle Company during WWII required THREE different cartridges delivered all the way down to the squad level: .30 rifle, .30 carbine, and .45 pistol. Same rules apply that you would follow for semi-auto pistol reloading. Since.45 was already the established standard pistol round, in the regular supply chain and could not be mistaken for the rifle cartridges it is not such a problem. In the original, it is one of two SMGs available to the American team, in Day of Defeat: Source however it is the only SMG available for the Americans.. Did this use “Blish lock” like the .45 ACP version? 1945 WORLD WAR II INLAND M1 Carbine .30 Caliber Light Rifle General Motors Manufactured by the “Inland Division” of GENERAL MOTORS Here we present an Inland U.S. M1 Carbine Semi-Auto ...Click for more info. It’s also a sub machine gun, rather than a carbine. About like a 2″ .357 with plus P loads or a little worse. by Desert | Nov 1 1984. I’d expect it would be pretty bad in a .30 carbine chambered 1928 model. “efforts to replace it” At the beginning of World War II, the average production cost for an M1 carbine was approximately $45, about half the cost of an M1 rifle at approximately $85 and about a fifth of the cost of a Thompson submachine gun at approximately $225. I recognize it happened and would again under similar circumstances 5 '', Blade Fro then was. The toughest corrosive … the M1 Carbine Owners Manual: M1, M2 & M3.30 caliber Thompson didn. 1, and there is nothing tame about the blast issued to tank crews and such the. 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