The biting point is now ridiculously low, you only have to move pedal up 1/2 inch maximum and it will stall if not given enough revs. Ask Question Asked 2 years, 6 months ago. Only discussed on here recently! Page 1 of 2 - Clutch biting point issue? I bled the clutch, and replaced all wearable clutch parts (pre-verto clutch) to include clevis pins, clutch arm, plunger, release bearing. When the clutch assembly became heat soaked, it would then not want to go into gear correctly, and was much worse in reverse (actually had to slam it into gear to get it to go in). To find the biting point: Using your left foot press the clutch fully down to the floor before selecting first gear. Clutch low biting point and gear selection. Had my clutch and flywheel replaced 3 months ago and it came back with a stupidly low biting point and 3rd gear felt notchy, 3 months later reverse is impossible to.engage as is 1st and all the other gears require a lot of effort to engage and go in with a crunch, the car also moves back/forth when trying to put it in 1st/reverse and also creeps forward when in 1st and foots flat on floor! Why does new clutch have much lower biting point? Adjusting im ok with, but if any helpful local mk3oc'ers want to lend a hand doin clutch would be very appreciated Between the floor to ~1" off the floor the clutch was completely disengaged. Some makes just have real high bite points. When I bought this car it had a very high clutch biting point. This feels good to me so far so I thought I'd share for anyone who's having issues with the bite point of the clutch on the G27 in AC. Want Answer 1. This will lift or drop the pedal away or to the floor . High bite point on clutch. Low biting point on new Clutch... Post by Dan the 480 Man » Thu Aug 14, … I have checked with other owners and they have confirmed hyundai coupes come with high clutch biting points. Clutch BITING POINT MEANING. Clutch control relies on your ability to feel the pedals properly and move without any restrictions. How to fix low clutch biting point after new clutch and slave cylinder installed. Hi - this is my first post so here goes - I've just bought a nice red 55 plate Avensis Verso D-4D. Hi guys Gears are very hard to go in, and grind. Thus, the need for adjustments is frequent. 265 Sudden loss of clutch, biting point close to floor (Megane III 265) Discussion in 'Mechanical - Engine, Gearbox ... With mine I ended up having to have a complete new clutch system. I'm guessing the clutch is hydaulic and not adjustable. Clutch Biting Point (G27) I've been doing a bit of tinkering and I've found the following setting yields a biting point on the G27 pedals right around the middle of the clutch pedal throw. Reverse is the worse gear to get too. When the clutch is engaged (foot off the pedal), the springs in the clutch press these three parts together so that the engine and the transmission are connected and spinning at the same speed. Dan the 480 Man 480 Is my middle name Posts: 2269 Joined: Thu Jan 08, 2004 8:42 pm Location: No longer in a Volvo...(But not forever!) My clutch biting point is about 3/4 inch from the top of the pedal travel! The bite point was so low that after a few miles, once the car had warmed up the clutch was dragging. Thing weights a ton. whitevanman88. Joined: Apr 2, 2008 Posts: 1,056 Likes Received: 0 Location: Macclesfield. Save Share. Mazda 6 2004 Clutch Pedal Will Not Return . - posted in MX5 & General Car Chat: Im really not sure if I have a clutch issue or not. - posted in Technical Section For MK1 & MK2: Hi All I've noticed the clutch biting point on our 2002 HDi 2.0 is quite low. 140 months. [size=75]My website: ::: [url=http://www.dcmoore.co.uk][color=black][b]dcmoore.co.uk[/b][/color][/url] :::[/size]. Is it new clutch time or just need cable adjusting? The clutch pedal can be adjusted from under the dash at the top part of the pedal assembly . Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. The biting point is now ridiculously low, you only have to move pedal up 1/2 inch maximum and it will stall if not given enough revs. As the clutch fails you will notice this getting higher and higher. If you find you’re having to let it out almost all the way, then you could well be looking at having to acclimatise your foot to a new clutch. My clutch biting point seems to have got lower and lower to the point it is less than 1/3rd from the bottom "excluding the first part of travel which is just spring tension on the pedal". KatieKat, Apr 19, 2016 #1. huffhuff Active Member. My previous mx5 mk2 had, for me, perfect clutch operation, the biting point was about 40% from the top of the pedal travel. Then from ~1" to 2" it would become fully engaged. 2 Posts #9 • May 22, 2014. Is this the same case for a X reg Yaris? Thread in 'Technical Questions' started by Cheshire190e, May 1, 2011. I have a 62 plate 1.2 Ford KA Zetec. 2. This primarily occurs when the clutch system is cabled as natural wear occurs over time. There is so much free play in the clutch before it disengages aswell therefore. There is no slip what so ever you can put foot down in all gears and pulls great , its just that the biteing point is so low barely have to lift clutch and its bites , cheers. New Clutch High biting point. 17 posts 1; 2; Next; flick34 New Posts: 3 Joined: Mon Jan 21, 2008 8:09 pm. Biting point was so high my heel couldn’t be on the floor when releasing the clutch. When the clutch pedal’s down, the engine isn't driving the wheels. The biting point moved a little upwards, nothing really. The pump test was to see if the was air in the system, if there was it would of changed. Logged '19 Hybrid Camry & '19 Kona Active 1.6 (Prev had four i30's incl SR and CRDi) martyni30; Posts: 18; United Kingdom. 3. 1. Low clutch biting point. I also believe the clutch is self adjusting and should sort itself out. The biting point can differ significantly not only from one motorcycle to another – with the distance being either too high or too low depending on the model – but also change over time on the same motorcycle. Changing these, i think, would change the length and the travel. Had my clutch and flywheel replaced 3 months ago and it came back with a stupidly low biting point and 3rd gear felt notchy, 3 months later reverse is impossible to.engage as is 1st and all the other gears require a lot of effort to engage and go in with a crunch, the car also moves back/forth when trying to put it in 1st/reverse and also creeps forward when in 1st and foots flat on floor! 2. The place where Volvo 480 fans come together, Moderators: jifflemon, coyote1980, Rachel, Post High bite point on clutch. because Ive heard that this might have been switched on newer cars so that when the bite becomes low it might mean its time for a new clutch. My last car (e46 330I) had a very very high clutch point even though I replaced the clutch on it. A worn clutch will slip despite where your clutch point is. This primarily occurs when the clutch system is cabled as natural wear occurs over time. 1 Comment; Flag; More. Josh_polo Gold Member Posts: 946 Joined: Mon Sep 10, 2007 10:05 pm Location: Bexleyheath,kent. Hot Network Questions Use a datastore on two OSes with esxi 6.7 My wife's contributions are not acknowledged in our group's paper that has me as coauthor. After two years of ownership I took the decision to replace my clutch while the weather was still good. The problems I had leading up to this was a low biting point about an inch off the floor, crunching when selecting reverse, clutch fading in hot weather. push rod. Anyone had a quote to replace the clutch on a R53 Cooper S, Douglas Parks in Hamilton wants £900 err let me think no! As a clutch wear, it takes longer for the plates to come together which means your biting point gets higher. 2. If … Joined ... OEM cables on Metros, 200s and 25s, they are ok with worn clutches but often need bulkhead packing washers if you fit a new clutch to give a proper biting point. Both manual and automatic transmission are discussed here, including the clutch! Spend over £5 and get 10% off in the store use code XMAS at checkout. These faults have always been there since I purchased the Fugly. Tossers. Or could it be something else? As a clutch wear, it takes longer for the plates to come together which means your biting point gets higher. Visible Signs . Sometimes, though, I think it’s just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. Saturday 23rd January 2010. lankybob said: Yeah, I … Zigzagsky, Mar 10, 2014 #1. by Dan the 480 Man » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:03 pm, Post Dont quote me on this as I could be wrong. The clutch biting point is a technique of clutch control to provide driver with greater control of the car, often necessary to make hill starts. As you slowly start to lift your left foot off the clutch, you’ll feel the engine and wheels starting to engage and may see the front of the bonnet rise a little. Asked 8 minutes ago by Charlottemarie. Did you change the clutch cable at all? From my current understanding, clutch point has little meaning to whether the clutch is going bad. This is an LUK dmf and clutch kit aswell! Active 2 years, 6 months ago. When you get a new clutch, the pads are at full width and the biting point is lower. by pol » Thu Sep 11, 2008 8:29 am. Had to ram my foot to the floor like a lunatic trying to get it into 1st or reverse lol. These faults have always been there since I purchased the Fugly. 5 posts • Page 1 of 1. I did struggle to get the gear box on tbh. The cable is adjusted under the bonnet correctly as it should be (correct mm's). It's just started out of the blue and I really don't like driving it like this. Sometimes, though, I think it’s just luck of the draw with how the installation of the most recent clutch went. as you might of guessed I know squot about cars, but my biting point at the mo is very very low, and what with my clutch acting up and being all grinding and clunky between 1st and 2nd gear, I have my doubts … With the old clutch that started slipping the biting point was right near the floor. What you need to do is find the biting point on the clutch and then press down on the accelerator a bit, and then carry on slowly lifting your foot off the clutch. 1 Comment; Flag; More. The problems I had leading up to this was a low biting point about an inch off the floor, crunching when selecting reverse, clutch fading in hot weather. 1 full revolution for me was enough to raise the biting point from the floor to roughly 1/3 - 1/2 way up the pedal travel. Car is hyundai coupe 2006. As a simple explanation, if you imagine the clutch as two circular plates, one of the plates is connected to … Cheers . Twist push rod in shown direction with long nose pliers to raise biting point from the floor. I’ve had it about a year and have been having problems for about 6 months. The clutch is made up three main parts - the clutch plate, pressure plate and flywheel. Adjusting im ok with, but if any helpful local mk3oc'ers want to lend a hand doin clutch would be very appreciated Depress the clutch to make the 12mm locking nut on the pushrod visible. I do think now that removing the damper, which i did, is simply an delay to the imminent death of the clutch. Normally it means the clutch is worn and will need replacement in the near future. Struggle to get in to reverse but can't remember the rest will have to check later. 1. Joined: Apr 2, 2008 Posts: 1,056 Likes Received: 0 Location: Macclesfield. You get used to it. Clutch pedal has dropped slightly and biting point is very low to the floor. How a clutch works: Without getting too bogged down in the mechanics, the clutch is made up of 2 metal plates in the engine. It might sound silly, but this is a point worth making. Is there any way I could raise the biting point by renewing the hydraulic system or something like that? I also bled the system. Posted by Darren Mcgovern on Jun 20, 2018. by Dan the 480 Man » Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:59 pm, Post I30's do tend to have a fairly low clutch bite point. A worn clutch will slip despite where your clutch point is. Clutch control and the biting point. Expert: Greg replied 5 years ago. What's wrong with the "airline marginal cost pricing" argument? Joined: Nov 15, 2011 Posts: 22,250 Likes Received: 5,132 Location: Near Newquay. Want Answer 1. The biting point can differ significantly not only from one motorcycle to another – with the distance being either too high or too low depending on the model – but also change over time on the same motorcycle. You must log in or register to reply here. You will correct it throughout the life of the clutch plate. Nodge68 Well-Known Member. Original Poster. Hydraulic clutches are self adjusting so the clutch bite point will not change like a cable clutch would do as the plate wears. Hi everyone, I've just fitted a brand new clutch into my ps. (I can). Glad you sorted it. Sounds like it to me mate, can you go through gears with no problems when the engines off? I might be able to get it up on my friends ramp this sat to see if there's any other lost motion in the operating mechanism. Clutch control tips and finding the biting point. Ive had a look at the clutch pedal and the bushes seem a bit worn but whether this is enough to cause the low biting point Im not sure. Could that be stretched? Both manual and automatic transmission are discussed here, including the clutch! Ive got an endoscope so Ill see if I can get it into the clutch to have a look like CPC suggested. After the mechanic renewing the clutch, DMFW and concentric slave cylinder the problem still existed, then the clutch slave cylinder was done. Take the car to a flat, level surface such as a parking lot such that the car does not roll away when in neutral with brakes disengaged. Post by Josh_polo » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:07 pm. I tried my father-in-laws 2.0 HDi Picasso and that confirms it as his pedal bites a bit higher up. Low clutch biting point. Hi all, I know this has probably been covered already but Ican't seem to find the answer. The biting point in it was very low. It changes gears fine and without crunching and it doesn't slip or anything. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. You should intuitively know where the biting point is for your clutch, especially after a couple of years behind the wheel. by rgreenhalf » Thu Aug 14, 2008 6:38 pm, Post Guest - you can now get 20% off all AutoBrite detailing products! Hi guys Gears are very hard to go in, and grind. Yep my clutch bites high as well - hubby giving me hard time says i bought a car that is going to need new clutch. Had the system bled etc but no luck so having to replace the lot this week. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Cheshire190e Active Member. Visible Signs . I just feel the biting point on the pedal is a bit low? Glad to see im not the only one, although i might change … If you’re wearing inflexible shoes with a thick sole, for example, you’re not going to be able to get a good enough feel for the clutch and biting point. With the old clutch that started slipping the biting point was right near the floor. Very happy with it, seems much more sensible in layout and size than other MPV's I tried. Chat about your MKIV (6N) Polo. When you press the clutch down the plates separate the engine from the wheels allowing you to switch gears. Clicking this will make more experts see the question and we will remind you when it gets answered. Should I speak up for her? The result is stunning. http://volvo480.northernscum.org.uk/for ... =7&t=19366. There is also an extension to the eylet on the gearbox through which the cable feeds. Hi Guest Christmas Merch sale! I think you need to pressure bleed on these cars or it can cause damage to the internals if you pump the pedal to bleed. As the clutch fails you will notice this getting higher and higher. Completely normal, its because its a brand new clutch which has zero wear on it. After 9 months I had a new genuine clutch put in. Registered. Between the floor to ~1" off the floor the clutch was completely disengaged. Gladt I read this - I can now get my own back. After soo manny hours and parts put in my car to solve the low biting point of the clutch, i have bought an new set from Sachs and install yesterday. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. 1,012 posts. Is it new clutch time or just need cable adjusting? It's literally been to the point where i lift my foot 1cm off the floor and the car moves. Page 1 of 2 1 2 Next > Cheshire190e Active Member. Thread in 'Technical Questions' started by Cheshire190e, May 1, 2011. The bite point will be where you, or the ratchet, adjust it to. I got a new master off of Matt and swapped that over, along with a LUK slave cylinder... made it worse, couldn't get it into gear at all! However, with it setup properly, the clutch pedal is still a bit higher than the brake pedal (about 10 mm), and the biting point is right at the bottom as soon as you lift the pedal. Hi, I just have a quick question. Why does new clutch have much lower biting point? How to fix low clutch biting point after new clutch and slave cylinder installed. Clutch Biting Point- Clutch Pedal Low Down - posted in Problems, Questions and Technical: Hi I recently had a gear crunching problem when selecting 1st or reverse gear on my 3-synch gear box. Clutch pedal has dropped slightly and biting point is very low to the floor. Take the car to a flat, level surface such as a parking lot such that the car does not roll away when in neutral with brakes disengaged. Hi everyone, I've just fitted a brand new clutch into my ps. Before the new clutch it was almost the opposite, you had to almost let the pedal return to the top before it would bite, but it started slipping then failed so it was replaced. Before the new clutch it was almost the opposite, you had to almost let the pedal return to the top before it would bite, but it started slipping then failed so it was replaced. You should intuitively know where the biting point is for your clutch, especially after a couple of years behind the wheel. Thus, the need for adjustments is frequent. Clicking this will make more experts see the question and we will remind you when it gets answered. Moderators: jifflemon, coyote1980, Rachel. When the clutch assembly became heat soaked, it would then not want to go into gear correctly, and was much worse in reverse (actually had to slam it into gear to get it to go in). Thread starter Smnwllms172; Start date Mar 5, 2013; Smnwllms172 02 Clio 172 Mar 5, 2013 #1 All of a sudden I've got this juddering when I'm pulling away or changing gear at low speeds. What a pain in the arse though. The biting point on the clutch is low but the gears still select without problems. I got a new clutch installed today and was surprised how low the biting point is. Top. Possibly, if they used the larger clutch, they may have used the different length release fork. This feels good to me so far so I thought I'd share for anyone who's having issues with the bite point of the clutch on the G27 in AC. Loosen 12mm locking nut then release clutch. New Clutch High biting point. vanfox wrote:Quote....a new clutch will have a bite point near floor and as it wears the point comes up new clutch plate thick so more movement needed to release from pressure plate , old clutch thin so less movement symples.....absolute b****cks! Had my clutch and flywheel replaced 3 months ago and it came back with a stupidly low biting point and 3rd gear felt notchy, 3 months later reverse is impossible to.engage as is 1st and all the other gears require a lot of effort to engage and go in with a crunch, the car also moves back/forth when trying to put it in 1st/reverse and also creeps forward when in 1st and foots flat on floor! Jack! 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